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"I am absolutely uncomfortable with confinement of any kind, social, domestic, cultural, mental, spiritual or physical. In this sense I could be seen as an unreliable companion, a fickle, changeable friend. I'm not. Loyalty is, I hope and pray, one of the qualities I offer to my real friends. It's just that the constant suffering that life presents us with, the inexhaustible variety of objects hurled in our path, makes me more and more determined not to submit to the inevitability of orthodoxy, the dull, mindless pressure to join the mob. I choose to resist the bulling of fate, even if I'm bound to be beaten to a pulp by the mediocrity that encroaches on our daily existence and all the terrible and awesome forces that mortality hurls at us through out our muddled lives".--Bill Nelson

Let's celebrate the sheer absurdity of friendship, and of the ways in which we relate on-line. Let's not point out that "friends list" and "friend" are not synonyms. Let's analyze less, therapize none at all, and regale ourselves with our private stories, for mass consumption. Let's poll, let's roll, and let's find our inner soul--and then retail it, for free, on-line:

[Poll #142409]

Date: 2003-06-05 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
Like nacowafer, I don't understand the last question. It's something I can't tell a LJ friend, yet it's supposed to apply to the world...or that I don't mind the world reading? If it's the latter, I would be able to tell the friend, yes? If it's the former, I can't answer this in a public post because I can't tell the friend....

Blehhh.

:)

Date: 2003-06-06 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
Oh, this is a touchy-feely one. My theory is that by realizing you could tell the world, it would make you realize you could tell your friend.

But I promise not to write a self-help book until next week.

Date: 2003-06-06 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't think the request/command, "Marry me!" would go over too well with the whole world. Ha ha.

Date: 2003-06-05 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amatrixangel.livejournal.com
"LJ friends constitute what percentage of your total friends?

10 20 30 40....100"

I dont' quite get this one? You mean how many people on the friends list or % compared to 'real life' friends?

Date: 2003-06-06 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
Yeah! Here's to splitting hairs! Another question for gurdonark: Are you referring to the whole "friends" list, or to those who we truly consider to be friends on LJ?

And BTW, I would like my sheep farm to be in Scotland, not New Zealand!

Date: 2003-06-06 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I was going to offer you and your acronymic friend a sheep farm in north Texas, as I think more LJ friends proximity would be a good thing :).

The poll question got rewritten 3 times, and still comes out wrong. Thank goodness it's not graded!

Date: 2003-06-06 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
my acronymic friend? whah?

yes, i agree with the proximity issue. blechtrommel says that denton (site of his upcoming stint at grad school) is not too far from dallas.

Date: 2003-06-06 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
Acronymic sounds good, but no sooner did I hit the comment than decide it was all wrong. I meant "first initial only".

Denton is not 30 miles from me. A great school for jazz music, of all things. Small town USA, just forty minutes from the city. Great fishing nearby, too, but [profile] blechtrommel may not be one for sunfish. I could live in Denton, because it has tons of really scenic north Texas towns just to its north, a curious rolling hills country that reminds one more of the Hill Country than most of north Texas.

Date: 2003-06-06 05:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
(nod) this is good to know, for my future LJ ambassador-ship to
the southwest.

in re: initials, one would have to be more specific! (see reader's guide to Goatland.) at first i thought you meant anagram, not acronym, which would be dogma. blechtrommel pointed out to me that now he, Rick, and Jon are arranged to spell "JAR" in my reader's guide...Perhaps Rick could get on board with sheep-farming since it would provide him with a green card...The other European letter of the alphabet, as I have bitched about profusely, is perfectly content with lack of proximity.

Mmm. Maybe one of these days I'll write a new entry. The eternal postponement.

Date: 2003-06-06 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
Hmmmm...I read that Goatland concordance fairly often, and yet can't keep it by memory.

I was thinking of the "W and I" wish we could afford a place to live post or was it M? The great thing about your journal is that I have this pleasing image of you with past, present (and, who knows, future?) objects of affection. They rise, like pleasing images, in journal posts and dreams.

I was just thinking about things I would ask my LJ friends, if I met them in person, and you came to mind. But I'm worried that the answer may be in Goatland, and I've skipped the wrong paragraph. But I'm pretty predictable, and I'd mostly just ask the maudlin stuff like "you're pretty cool--why don't you hang with people who'll treat you better".

But that's my native small town boy thing going--why can't everyone just be "NAICE" to each other?

Date: 2003-06-06 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
Oh, yeah. M. Mike and I have fantasies about being more than solvent and not just being able to take care of ourselves/pay debts (which actually is pretty hard), but being able to shower others with material generosity (houses, travel, the freedom to do creative work...giving our friends/family their dream jobs/businesses). In fact, I saw some Pepsi sweepstakes commercial last night and was going off on that fantasy. Essentially one of being able to give much more than one takes, not at a fancy luxury lifestyle level, but at the level of enough security/quality of life to achieve a dream or two. It wouldn't sound shallow or short-sighted if I could explain to you frankly about the quality of M's existence... The fantasy is more about salvation than of "rolling in it," let's just put it that way. Hmm. It's a preview of one of my "shower meme" answers.

Being nice...You know, it's very hard to pin down these nice people for actual face-to-face interaction. I have met/seen in person the other Baltimore LJ 30-somethings only once (see our entries of around August 28). It's something that never quite takes off. It's difficult to get past one's shyness and keep asking if people want to get together when they already have friends.

Date: 2003-06-06 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I differ, perhaps, from some folks in that I do consider some level of material possessions important. I know it would be more correct to say "live without regard for all that", but that is not my view.

The key challenge, to me, is balance (as in all things). If you and M lived in the Dallas area, you'd be guaranteed of one couple with whom to go to eat inexpensive ethnic dive food, as I believe that my wife would find you entirely fascinating.

Date: 2003-06-06 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chevrefeuilles.livejournal.com
Awww. That would be really nice. If we had the sheep farm, we could dine on lamb occasionally. };)= (Actually, despite a lack of vegetarianism, I couldn't bring myself to do that.) The "farm"/country gentlewoman thang is one of my longest-running dreams, as might be apparent from a post I'm sitting on. It would be an excuse to have herding dogs. I'd like some dairy goats, too.

I am glad that you understand what I mean about material things and $$.

now at the reference desk with many more gurdonark posts to read,

L

Date: 2003-06-06 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
The wording is really poor on this journal question. It should say "Of your total population of true friends in real life and on LJ, what percentage of those friends do you know only through LJ?". What a mouthful.

Date: 2003-06-06 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amatrixangel.livejournal.com
My dearest Robert, I'm sorry to say this to you, but you've been a lawyer for far too long :D

Sorry, only kidding :P I won't tell you the sand joke. I still don't understand the question in a way. But then, I am a visual artist so that means I'm dumb (another stereotype :)

ok, sitting here looking at it for a moment, now I do (understand the question that is). It took a while for the synapses to connect.

okay. Answer is none, I guess. I talked Roz into getting an lj account just recently. Before that, well, 90% of people on my lj friends list are from the 'States which is like 12,000 miles away so....... zippo. But she is a friend in 'real life' before she got an lj account and I figure you mean people you've met on lj and then met in real life. ....??

Before I was confused but now I'm not sure.

Date: 2003-06-09 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serendipoz.livejournal.com
And there I am - where my answers sound as if they are so many other people who are your friends, ... what a medium!

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