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"Marlene watches from the wall
Her mocking smile says it all
As she records the rise and fall
Of every man who's been here

But the only one here now is me
I'm fighting things I cannot see
I think it's called my destiny
That I am changing"--Suzanne Vega

How much does one change over time? I think that the best gauge in some ways is how one behaves in relationships. So many changes in my life recently seem to be in the bifocal and lessened memory skills categories--changes that make me think about more capable days in the past. But I think back this morning on relationships and friendships past, and perhaps I have changed after all.



I remember being the sort of guy whose normal phrase was "I'm sorry". I don't mean that I transgressed so often that I ended up having to apologize. I mean that I was constantly vigilant, to ensure that I expressed empathy or concern as to any mild friction, whether I caused the friction, or just the person I was with was talking about a bad day.

I think that anytime one absorbs a statement like "I'm sorry" into one's autonomous system, then a whole dynamic of the relationship becomes something like 'he breathes, she breathes, he says 'I'm sorry'. I know in this way I've changed as the years go on. I think it's a combination of enhanced self-confidence, but also perhap a diminishing of that incredibly intense solicitude that my younger self might have had.

I think that in relationships, so much of what seems to be "the issues" in the relationship are merely the individual issues of the people involved, refracted through the prism of the relationship. I think I am by nature a 'nurturing' person, but when I was younger, perhaps this meant that
I would stay too long in relationships in which people clung to me as a port in a storm, to be sailed away from when the weather improved. I think, too, that my own sense of self-denigration made me less assertive in relationships, perhaps because I was less convinced that I was entitled to kind treatment than the people from whom I perhaps should have sought it.

So many things change as one grows older when it comes to how one relates to people. So many of the rough edges of self-doubt wear down--I've never found that any magical change converts one to a suave 60s movie hero type of confidence. Instead, one might retain one's own bundle of neuroses, but they are polished, like fine silver, into something quite presentable.

Maybe that's what one learns that one did not know at 17. At 17, one knows only the rough, raw power line edge of fitting one's own idiosyncracies among those around one. But the erosion of age softens the wire burn feeling this involves.
Now I'm much less worried about whether people like me then I was then, and much more certain about what I want from life.

But I do miss my more starry-eyed idealism from that time, and my sense that through intense loyalty, anything could happen. I believed in one relationship that if I were just "there" for someone, it would solve a myriad of shortcomings in the relationship. You know, "I'll just be there for her, and she'll *see* that I'm the one she should spend her life with". I think that with hindsight if the particular "she" in question had indeed elected to suspend her reservations about our relationship, then "she" might well have had a workable life. But I did not realize then that one should not hope that a woman will "settle" for one for want of anything better to do. I know that when offered the chance to "settle" myself for someone entirely amiable and kind, but with whom I did not feel the right synchrony, I declined to do so. Perhaps this time,which was painful at the time, taught me a great deal.

I think it's tempting to look back at past failed relationships with longing and regret. But in some ways, it's just a longing for lost youth, and a longing for the ability to live out one's choices using today's more mature insights.
Among other things, knowing that I would be less shy about what I want and more bold about seeking it intrigues me, because when I was 17 I was not particularly assertive and anything but bold.

But I suspect that part of the reason why at 43 I am no longer the way I was at 17 is that I lived the intervening years, and got a post-graduate degree from the University of Experience. I suppose, though, that there is no harm in sometimes wishing I could matriculate again.

Adding you to my friends today

Date: 2003-06-05 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robertstheology.livejournal.com
I am 56, having some of the identical thoughts. I was always a slow learner, you are about a decade ahead of me on the maturity curve. I have been practicing not saying "Sorry" for several months. It is extremely difficult. I was the oldest of 5 children of hypercritical, perfectionist, narcissistic parents.

Just finished this book this morning:

The Fisher King and the Handless Maiden: Understanding the Wounded Feeling Function in Masculine and Feminine Psychology
by Robert A. Johnson (Author)

If you have not yet read this author, I recommend him highly. I have been reaping tremendous insights about my childhood and youth as I work through about a dozen of his books.



"One of this century's most popular psychology scholars, Robert A.Johnson was among the first to present Carl Jung's rich but complex theories with simple elegance and grace,opening them to an entirely new and hungry audience. His masterful works--including the best selling He, She, Inner Work, and Owning Your Own Shadow-are known and loved as much for their beautiful retellings of timeless myths and folktales as for their deep wisdom and profound insight."


Re: Adding you to my friends today

Date: 2003-06-05 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
Welcome back! I had worried I'd offended you previously. I love the art you put up on your site. Are those your work?

I'll look into The Fisher King!

Re: Adding you to my friends today

Date: 2003-06-05 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robertstheology.livejournal.com
No, I just got mixed up!?

No, I just post pictures from Google images.

I would love to learn to draw and paint, have a couple of books, intend to get to that soon.

Re: Adding you to my friends today

Date: 2003-06-06 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I got the Drawing on the Left Side of the Brain book, but found my the left side of my brain is as artless as the right.

Date: 2003-06-05 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nancyjane.livejournal.com
so close and yet worlds apart...

i was fearless as a teenager, and as a 20 something. i did worry what people thought of me but it was more of an action, an external thing, than something that i kept inside. i did have that faith in loyalty you speak of, unshakable faith in the right things. not for settling for things but for holding out for the best things. all that's watered down to mere optimism now.

i like the metaphor of the silver. beautiful. i wish i felt like silver. i'll have to start reminding myself of that. but i feel that instead of being refined, life has intimidated me in ways... i no longer have the strength of confidence, faith, that i once did.

the flip side of all this is i'm more open to new things, ideas... i always was open, truthfully, and always was a good listener, but my style might have been less than inviting for others to propose their views to me. now, i'm much more patient, and able to discern when someone has something really important to them that they wish to say, or to protect. i guess i'm more aware that putting myself in someong else's place doesn't always mean i can understand them either.

so that's a good thing i'm really grateful for that, i never liked the idea of being a bully. i think in the past though i have been, by omission of patience and awareness.

i still have a few friends who have known me for a long time and still say i have some smugness of acting/thinking like i know it all. i certainly don't think i do, but i think they have known and are still seeing traces of that faith, confidence, rebelling within me against all self doubts, anything and everything else.

Date: 2003-06-05 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I meet both types of people these days...fearless 20something hobbled later, and fearful 20s, bold 40s.
I guess I'm in the latter camp!

Date: 2003-06-05 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soakedinsin.livejournal.com
That was very insightful and calming to read this morning for someone so young and so worried about regretting decisions being made... Thank you for sharing.

Date: 2003-06-05 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I think decisions are hard at any age. I wish you the best fortune with yours!

Date: 2003-06-06 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daisydumont.livejournal.com
i still say "i'm sorry" all the time. hadn't ever quite thought of how much that reveals about the inner sympathizer, alert to every tiny pain or affront in others. i would like to be bolder, have flashes of it, but not prolonged, productive phases. i'll think this over.

oh, you did well not to settle. i did, and though my almost-29-year marriage isn't a bad thing, i've always known i should've liked myself well enough to wait for what i really wanted.

Date: 2003-06-06 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
It's so easy to look back and regret. Maybe that's why in the myth, the first thing they do is drink from the River Lethe to forget.

After I posted this, I remembered how alert I still am to whether I have offended somehow I like. I find myself on LJ sending comments or e mails to make sure some particularly tactless comment did not hit an unintended home.

I like firm, but not bold. Bold might require risk :)

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