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We rented The Good Girl last night, and enjoyed watching most of it. During a snack break, though, we somehow got diverted onto Son of Sinbad, whose camp take on the old Sinbad stories amused us until we were too sleepy to watch anything anymore. I got two books on art history in the mail from half.com sellers, and am browing through those bit by bit. I also got a very nice bit of mail art, a book of sketches, for which I will need to send something appropriate in exchange. This weekend I want to do my only pending nervousness exchange, for which I must create a scrapbook of pictures and crudely done drawings--this is always fun for me. I noticed over at [profile] mailart someone was advertising for a regular mail art penpal, but conditioning this solemn position of trust upon an earnest pledge not to send unicorn stickers. Although I have some sympathy with this line of thinking, my immediate impulse is to advertise for a regular correspondent who will only send me sparkle, My Little Pony decals and letters written in purple ink. Fortunately, I rarely follow my impulses.

This week marked the furor abroad when our US Secretary of Defense, the Cold War era Donald Rumsfeld, made yet another alienating public comment, suggesting that our allies France and Germany are of an "old Europe" which no longer "speaks for Europe". Just prior to September 11, Mr. Rumsfeld's job was on extremely tenuous footing, in large part because he has essentially no tact and no ability to work with others to get a job done. I believe it is time for him to retire from the scene, as he is a detriment within our government. Meanwhile, the US needs to listen to our allies in the UN this time, and work to build an international consensus on the issue of how to deal with Iraq's failure to live by the mandates established after the 1991 war. I am not an extreme dove, but I am still convinced that the planned US/UK/handful of joiners military action would be a tremendous mistake (albeit a mistake that militarily would probably go our way). This situation is entirely different than Afghanistan, and I do not know why the Bush folks can't see the difference. I see that America is finally beginning to lose confidence in Mr. Bush's administration. I am concerned, though, that we will nonetheless be committed prematurely to a foreign adventure.

The students of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, by contrast, write that war causes massive disruption and death, as if this were a new revelation. I have every confidence that war is a horrible thing. But articles which present statistically the horrible and needless loss which war causes still beg the question a bit. When I was younger, I was a pacifist, who believed in non-violence in all situations. But the moral question inherent in World War Two still rears its ugly head. In that situation, it became apparent that the Nazis were slaughtering ethnic minorities internally and conquering neighboring states externally. Had a pacifist approach been adopted, it is likely that all western Europe would have fallen into the hands of a madman. When we look back on World War Two, the appeasement strategy pursued by Chamberlain seems wrong. It's true that the allied invasions of France, Italy, and the countries east of Germany caused immense death and horrible suffering. But was there really an alternative to fighting the Nazis? I don't think so. Rather, I should say--there was an alternative, but we none of us would wish to live in the world that would have resulted had the Nazis kept on taking over Europe.

I see the Iraq regime as a merciless oppressor of its own people, but as one which is in all likelihood contained. Accordingly, I don't see the point of a war about it at this time. But I cannot say that war is always avoidable, or that military action is always wrong.

Mr. Bush's team, with the exception of Mr. Powell, seem to hunger for war in a situation in which a concerted international effort would be far wiser. I am concerned we are all going to reap the whirlwind before this is all done, but time will tell. Meanwhile, of course, our domestic stock market continues to languish, as investors understandably are not thrilled about the economic outlook when an expensive and uncertainty-causing war looms at hand. Of course, when the market is down on such a basis, it may actually be a good time to buy stocks, so I may have to look into an index mutual fund soon. I am not a big investor, but I do know that in my adult life, whenever the market is low and everyone is filled with gloom, that's the one time one can have fun going into it. Maybe, though, I'd be better going to one of those Hollywood Stock Exchange type "invest in celebrities" websites. I would probably sell Jennifer Garner and Russell Crowe, buy Salma Hayek and Diane Lane, and hold Jennifer Jason Leigh. On second thought, maybe I'll make mail art involving unicorns instead.

I now have a sore throat and a mild cough. I hope that weekend of rest and staying warm will solve it. It reminds me that too many late night flights and too much climate change still make [personal profile] gurdonark a rather dull boy.

Date: 2003-01-25 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildgarden.livejournal.com
"I see the Iraq regime as a merciless oppressor of its own people, but as one which is in all likelihood contained. Accordingly, I don't see the point of a war about it at this time. But I cannot say that war is always avoidable, or that military action is always wrong."

Totally agreed. I think that Vietnam and the anti-war mobilzation created a large number of pacifists in our generation. And I think that many of us have matured to the point where we can see valid reasons for the use of military force.
But the only reason I can see for this crew pushing a war is that they want control of Iraq's oilfields. In this case we, the US, are looking like the bullies and the bad guys to many people around the world.

Date: 2003-01-25 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I sympathize with the people in power who are frustrated with Iraq, but I worry that their judgment is so hawkish as to prevent a reasoned approach. It's much easier, say, with North Korea, in which it is obvious that through containment their economy and regime will soon collapse, and we will have one Korea. The Iraqi oil seems to figure in there someplace, although I do not think we would "go to war just for oil". I do worry that we will go to war in a situation in which we cannot establish a lasting peace even after a victory, so why go to war at all?

Date: 2003-01-25 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asphalteden.livejournal.com
Being an avowed Vincent Price fan, I was happy to see him in Son of Sinbad. But, what an awful movie! Proof that a big budget, Howard Hughes movie in the old days could be sublimely dreadful. That was the first time in a while I had difficulty watching a bad b-movie (make that a c-movie). And what was with all that belly dancing?

America's place in today's world politics is a subject that is beginning to scare the hell out of me.

Date: 2003-01-25 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I turned on Son of Sinbad just as the intro was finishing, and expected a swords and sorcery low tech special effects movie. When it turned out instead to be a C - costume extravaganza, with a four minute belly dance intro featuring an aging stripper, I was a bit amused. By the end of the half an hour, though, I decided that even Vincent Price could not save this film. I love the way that Vincent Price, who was really a kind of "boy next door" in some ways, was able to project this faux dignity that carried him along an entire career. Proof positive that gentlemen can arise from even B movies, and that more knights are crowned with celluloid than with scepters.

Date: 2003-01-25 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uscwriter.livejournal.com
Dear husband was watching that Sinbad movie as well. Is there some genetic coding that allows y'all to sit through those things?

Hooray for shiny, sparkly stickers!
Hope you feel better soon.

KIM

Date: 2003-01-25 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I really like that userpic. Once you figured out how to do them, you really found a good one. I don't know anyone could sit through all of Son of Sinbad, but it is a camp classic.

Date: 2003-01-25 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heymaggie.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] gurdonark--always entertaining, always informative---no, never dull! Gargle with warm salt water!

Date: 2003-01-25 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
What a kind thing to say! I was just thinking yesterday how you've sent me a few very nice things over the last month or two, and I've not mailed off anything. I will remedy that soon.

Date: 2003-01-25 09:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mesawyou.livejournal.com
an "old" Europe. As far as I know, no country except Britain is supporting this fiasco. Yeah I said Fiasco. GRRRR

Date: 2003-01-25 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm sure some Balkan country or other may ultimately approve, but the remark is so silly I'm amazed Rumsfeld has not been asked to resign. All the incredible fellow feeling that Europe showed after 9/11 has been dissipated by this administration in a mere 18 months.

Date: 2003-01-25 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mesawyou.livejournal.com
It's all craziness indeed. Last time I looked at affairs Europe was trying to become a more unified Europe with the "euro" and other things. I can't believe he would say something so ignorant either. Then again I still can't believe this whole "axis of evil" spin or just how far the "homeland security" bill has gone.

Date: 2003-01-26 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] texas-tornado.livejournal.com
"Just prior to September 11, Mr. Rumsfeld's job was on extremely tenuous footing, in large part because he has essentially no tact and no ability to work with others to get a job done. I believe it is time for him to retire from the scene, as he is a detriment within our government."

Donald Rumsfeld's least concern at this point would be his 'tact'. He's got a great deal on his plate and I, for one, wouldn't want the task of having to make the decisions that he does. 'Detriment'? No, not hardly. He's a fine Secretary of Defense for the United States.

"Mr. Bush's team, with the exception of Mr. Powell, seem to hunger for war in a situation in which a concerted international effort would be far wiser."

'Concerted international effort'? Hasn't the U.S. and the rest of the world been trying that for YEARS!? It's time to pull out all of our military toys and rid Iraq of their 'axis of evil'. (Truer words were never spoken when President Bush (not Mr. Bush ~ he is our President whether you like him or not ~ AND it's 'Secretary of State' Colin Powell) referred to Iraq, Iran and North Korea using these words.

Peronally, I hope we will now finish what we started in 1991.......

Date: 2003-01-26 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I don't want all that is one his plate either, I just want them to give it to someone better equipped to handle it appropriately than he is. I think that alienating allies is not the way to go about this. But I do appreciate your giving me a sensible opposing point of view.

One thing I have liked about the Bush government is that it abandoned the isolationism upon which he campaigned, in favor of a more global approach. But now it seems we have gone too far in the other direction. That's not say that that Hussein is not evil.
Hussein is evil, and I would love to see him go. It is a question whether the elder Mr. Bush should have removed him in 1991. But now the son faces the issue.

I respect your point of view, but I still think that if the press is right about the internal workings of that administration, Mr. Rumsfeld and Mr. Chaney give very bad advice. I fully expect that if we go to war, we will win it, albeit with some loss of life all around. It is how to deal with the resulting post-war that troubles me. But I appreciate your time the time to give me another view.

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