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I love that people who write letters to the editor of newspapers so often have names like "P. Stickney, of Garland". Today's Dallas Morning News contained a letter from said P. Stickney, of Garland, on the topic of recent financial problems for area cafeteria restaurants. To paraphrase P. Stickney, the letter took the position that cafeteria food is no longer what it was fifty years ago. I cannot take a position on that, having only been going to cafeterias for some thirty five years or so, but I can say that cafeterias are no longer what they once were. When I was a kid, liquor licenses were not available to ordinary restaurants, rendering most "fine" cuisine unavailable, as it was apparently hard to make a living serving only iced tea rather than "high profit" mixed alcoholic drinks. Meanwhile, fast food restaurants really did not have the market penetration. The result was that seekers of "high cuisine" and "fast food", as well as everybody else, ate at cafeterias. Once a cafeteria visit was an event of state, comparable to a stay at a grand hotel. When I was a child, I was assured that I had just missed even more glorious days for cafeteria grandeur.

I liked P. Stickney's letter because it had cautions to cafeterias as a way to define the problem--advice to refrain from mixing apples and bananas in with the peaches; suggestions to ensure that vegetables are fully-cooked,and suggestions to ensure that rolls were soft. I do remember the time when everything was cooked so thoroughly that one could not find a hint of crunchiness in everything. Fashions change, and now it is hard to find things literally steamed, boiled or roasted into oblivion. Many belittle this cuisine, but did it have to vanish?

I remember once when my cousin, who is a big success as a professor of hotel and restaurant management, lightly sauteed some vegetables for my great aunt. She reported with awe "I never knew that people ate crunchy vegetables. I didn't know that was the fancy way to eat them; I thought they were under-cooked.

We're pretty broad in our food tastes, and eat food at home and in restaurants featuring cuisines of all the world. But sometimes I do long, with P. Stickney, for rolls that are soft and vegetables that are fully cooked.

Long Live the Limp Vegetable

Date: 2003-01-14 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scott-m.livejournal.com
Veggies, Southern Style:

Combine veggies with huge quantities of water and a
fat-laden piece of pork. Boil, boil, boil.

I'm sure that if you go to one of those steak-cum-buffet
places, you'll find vegetables as soggy as you remember
waiting under heat lamps.

Re: Long Live the Limp Vegetable

Date: 2003-01-14 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
I was just last week expressing to my wife a deep desire for good old fashioned salt pork. Do you know I've now been 2 New Years without hog jowls with my black-eyed peas! This explains a world of misfortunes.

When I was a kid, I hated that asparagus was boiled into a sort of mess, but now it seems a mild comfort to me. I must admit, though, that I still want my asparagus, if I must eat it at all, bamboo steamed.

Date: 2003-01-14 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voodoukween.livejournal.com
aaarrrrghhhh! i cannot abide mushy soft veges

and cafeteria food is not comfort for me

only reminds me of private school and nothing else

i recall the worst of it as lima beans in stewed tomatoes and shit on a shingle...that gray ground meat in some tenous sauce over bread and then there's the tasteless and oversoft spaghetti

i did like the creamed tuna on old dried bread slices cut up, call me weird

so i guess we're even on the food court

Date: 2003-01-14 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gurdonark.livejournal.com
My grade school had the best cafeteria food, as did my college,but the high school I attended the last two years had the worst in prefab over cooked stuff.

Your descriptions remind me of church camp food--a sure reminder of the need for grace and salvation!

Re:

Date: 2003-01-14 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voodoukween.livejournal.com
and a good sense of humor!

Date: 2003-01-14 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laruth.livejournal.com
The cafeteria at my Uni had pretty good food. Unfortunately the food wasn't as cheap as you would expect at a Uni, but it had a range of "specials", which ranged from various Asian to Italian food.

As for vegies, I don't eat them so I can't really say anything. ;)

Date: 2003-01-15 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serendipoz.livejournal.com
One thing you find on Fish and Chip shop menus in the UK is 'mushy peas' - these are the type of olive green cooked-until-they-melt peas.

Me, I still like crisp ones!

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